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Hey, I think Robert's Rules of Order are as daft as a brush, but knowing the propensity we have for going off track on topics like this, I felt that it was the best way to proceed. Once we all agree that we're going this way, then we'll work on the specifics.
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I understand your objections to IRC activity being figured into clan membership. One can idle in IRC all they want, but that doesn't mean I'm going to vote for them. The point of including IRC in that task was not to make it a consideration for getting in, but to take it into account for possible official clan meetings down the road. As a point of re-organization, it will be suggested that we have regular clan meetings and then discussed as to whether or not attendance will be mandatory.
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I assume you're meaning a "leave of absence" sort of thing. That will be addressed in the continuing membership requirements task.
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Regards to posting requirements - we'll address that in the continuing membership requirements step. I, too, am in favor of making continued presence in the /gamespy forum a requirement, but that is an issue for later discussion.
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Anyone else have points they would like to bring up? happy

 

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Only, someone get the chainsaw!!!!

 

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Great, looks like we're agreed on this. Let's talk about #1. I propose that if someone hasn't posted at /gamespy in one month, he's inactive. If he doesn't post more than three times in as many months, he's inactive. If he misses a month of voting or six votes, he's inactive.

It may sound strict but really, a month is plenty of time. I don't know if I've ever gone a month without posting or voting as long as I've been in [GSF]. I think these are fairly lax requirements.

 

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Thirded, fourthed, whatever. I agree. I see people getting massive approval during initiation that I have never heard of before, simply because they hang out in IRC but don't post in gamespy.

 

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[P]aradox posted:

Great, looks like we're agreed on this. Let's talk about #1. I propose that if someone hasn't posted at /gamespy in one month, he's inactive. If he doesn't post more than three times in as many months, he's inactive. If he misses a month of voting or six votes, he's inactive.

Seconded... although, frankly, I think the 'one month without posting' and 'one month without voting' limits will catch most inactive members without needing any extra rules. These rules are, of course, assuming we hold at least one vote every month... if not, we'll be in a slight problem. We can't exactly dump everyone who's gone a month without voting if nobody applied in the last month. Still, that's fairly unlikely.

So: who else supports [P]'s plan? It sounds fine to me.

Also: for the record, IRC activity should not be included when considering whether someone is active, and whether they should join or remain a member of the clan. This is not a clan based around IRC, it is based around the GameSpy Forums. I'm ambivalent about whether to include the [GSF] forum in considering activity; I'd say we should probably include it, but it won't make much difference either way.

 


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I think so long as Coyote is cool with what I meant for IRC participation, we're in general agreement with the steps that need to be taken.

Sould we get any dissenting opinions, the objections will be duly noted and dealt with.

In the interest of keeping this whole process organized, I think we should keep discussion on each section in a separate thread. To that end, I will start a thread on topic 1 and we can debate the inactivity requirements there.

 

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Noted and agreed. I also support [P]'s ideas on activity and do not in any way think they are too strict.

 


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I vote against any mandatory clan meetings in #gsf, or anywhere for that matter. I'm rarely on my computer nowadays, and when I am, I'm doing work, not screwing around, during any type of reasonable hour.

 

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Benny Big Hair posted:

I vote against any mandatory clan meetings in #gsf, or anywhere for that matter.


With a clan such as [GSF], IRC meetings couldn't possibly be mandatory simply due to timezone issues. It'd be pointless.

The only reason [GSF]s formation was possible was due to the irrelevancy of timezones with regards to communication on message boards. How else would people from Europe and the US be able to set up a clan, quickly joined by Australians and a Kiwi?

Either way, I think it's a bit of a non-issue.

 


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Seconded... although, frankly, I think the 'one month without posting' and 'one month without voting' limits will catch most inactive members without needing any extra rules. These rules are, of course, assuming we hold at least one vote every month... if not, we'll be in a slight problem. We can't exactly dump everyone who's gone a month without voting if nobody applied in the last month. Still, that's fairly unlikely.


I agree. In fact, I think the opposite scenario is likely to cause more problem. If a person is held accountable to 6 missed votes, what about the occasion when we have six people applying at once? If you miss that single round, you are out. Frankly, though this is strict, I have no real issue with it.

I just thought I should bring up that point.

 

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Then have it just one month without voting, not x number votes missed. If you post but don't vote, you're out. If you vote but don't post, you're out. These two things are necessary to sustain membership. They're essential to the clan and each other.

 

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I didn't say that we should have mandatory meetings, I'm just saying that there is the possibility of the necessity of meetings in the future. The "mandatory" part of it was just a thought of an option, which was not intended as meaning "we will have meetings and they will be mandatory" grin

 

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Just some random input: This dead wood would be cool to mention on an ex-[GSF] page, so we can list everyone who's been [GSF], going back to Eccentric and whatnot.

 

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It'll be a monster to compile! But I tihnk it's something we probably should have always had on the site. Maybe an extension or replacement of the Friends page, seeing as that's a little disused now.

 


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