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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 3/17/05 5:02am
<orange>It'll take even longer, 'coz if they get accepted, they must be implemented in the website for example. Plenty of horror for me to come! grin </orange>

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 3/17/05 6:17am
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Hey, at least you don't have some PHB leaning over your shoulder asking you things like, "What do you mean it'll take you a while to implement the new rules? Can't you just like, toggle some XML in the paradigm layer?"

Speaking of horror... now I'm having flashbacks, because I actually got asked that question by a management type a few jobs back. He wasn't amused when I stared at him for a few minutes, and then asked, "Do you know what any of those words mean?" The rest of the developers, however, found it quite amusing happy

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 3/17/05 9:50am
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Why do I get the feeling that your work environment roughly resembles a Dilbert comic?

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 3/17/05 10:46am
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I swear I'll stop going off topic after this, but I love this story and must share... let me see if I can get all the parts I'm not allowed to share out of it and see if it's still a good story:

A few months back, I had a bug show up in my queue. I wrote an API that can be used to generate source code. Our project manager wanted me to change the way the code was generated, but his request made no sense, so I kept pestering him with questions.

Eventually, it became clear that the change was a really, really bad idea. Basically, we had one customer that wanted things to work in the way he had described, so I was being made to alter the behavior in order to accommodate them. Of course, this meant that my code would piss off every other customer we had... but hey, that one customer would be happy, right?

So I pushed back, explaining why this was a Very Bad Idea (TM). I got bureaucratically pimp slapped and told to Just Do It. So I did.

Let's pretend for the moment that I had a method that looked like this:

<code>
generateSomeCode(InputStuff input)
</code>

I added a new method that looked like

<code>
generateSomeCode(InputStuff input, boolean doItRight)
</code>

If you passed in a value of true for doItRight, then we generated the source code the way I knew we were supposed to. If you passed in a false, then we generated it PM's (wrong) way. I changed all references to the code to pass in false, so it'd break as requested.

As I expected, a week later, complaints were pouring in, and I was ordered to change things back... a thankfully easy task since I'd planned ahead. Fortunately, PM doesn't look at our code, so they can't see comments in the code like

<code>
// whatever. pm is on crack.
</code>

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 3/17/05 2:28pm
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<orange>Hahaha!!! Way to go!

I know what you mean. One time, I had to implement a feature that was... well, stupid. On top of that, it was gonna be the default behaviour. In fact, the ONLY behaviour, there was no alternative. So we implemented it and tadaaa! Others started asking what was wrong with the system. o_O

On a different note: the company idiot quit! WOOT!</orange>

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 3/17/05 2:38pm
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knowing that the PM doesn't look at the code, I probably would have commented something like this:

<code>//whatever. pm is on shrooms supplied by customer who thinks this is the way it should work. If he shared, maybe we could all see it his way.</code>

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 3/17/05 7:40pm
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I've gotten in trouble for that kind of thing before. We had to do some things that hadn't really been anticipated when the original design was done. The APIs that had been provided to us didn't really support it well. I filed some enhancement requests, and got the polite version of "fuck off" as a response.

I wound up having to write tons of code to work around the problem... really ugly code, full of hacks, and very bug prone and brittle. Pretend with me for a moment that I work on a piece of software called MyProduct... I stuck all of this nasty ass code in a class called MyProductDeficiencyHandler.

Of course, as soon as you encounter a fatal error and a stack trace gets thrown on the console, you see the name of the class the error occurred in. QA blew the code up, and got a stack trace. PM wasn't amused when they read it, since customers could potentially see it.

Was a good point, so I changed the class name. But it was also a pretty good joke happy

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 3/17/05 11:50pm
I could swear Dilbert works around here... or at least he must have some great inside information. He's just too many times to right on the mark.

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 4/2/05 4:07am
<orange>We have a flaw in the voting for the bylaws I think. Eh, when will it get accepted or rejected???</orange>

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 4/2/05 6:27am
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What do you mean by "flaw"? I thought the voting was supposed to go until mid-April?

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 4/2/05 7:34am
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<orange>Sorry, what I meant was what percentage is needed for the bylaws to be accepted or rejected?</orange>

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 4/2/05 10:44am
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I say it should be the same percetage that we use for initiates, seems like a fair amount.

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 4/2/05 11:47am
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<orange>Sounds sane to me: two thirds it is if that is in my opinion

edit: wtf did I say there? Two thirds it is, if that's the general opinion. Sheesh...</orange>

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 4/2/05 1:02pm
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I thought we discussed that already... but a 2/3 majority of all votes cast sounds sane to me as well...

 

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RE: Part 1: Determining Inactivity and Re-Activation 4/2/05 8:06pm
Indeed, it's two thirds. Though if it passes it will raise the total for future things to 75%. Mmmm...75%.

 
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