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Topic: Me = Pissed off...
Game Boy
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In Reply To #52

No smegging way.

I've got a feeling [hoi!] that Becks is going to play the house down in that game for the wrongdoings of four years ago...

We'll win the group, but Argy'll win the tournament. Them or Italia, 'casue Montella is - frankly - god.

IRT K

Quiet, you!

*kicks K*

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What the jeebus did I miss in these couple of days?

 

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Nothing much. Actually, nothing at all, except this:
http://www.forumplanet.com/3dactionplanet/topic.asp?fid =1827&tid=646359

 

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ya i think you guys should just give it up.

 

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Why not just get a dedicated server and just go in it when we want to? The only trouble is, who's gonna finance it?

 


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In Reply To #65

Yeah.

I know people like Doc and Wildfire can host a few games, but... well, I don't really need to go into it.

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Unrelated, yet still quite important issue!

I'm on exam leave at the mo - I'm not gonna be forumming very often, and of course, there's not that much space in my [revision jammed(!)] schedule. So if anyone wants to take over organisational stuff (Pseudo/Duke - I'm looking at you) for a few weeks, it'd be a great help. <email to="[email protected]">My email.</email>

 

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I've already been there, and I don't intend to go again =)

Plus, I have lots of shiznat coming up too!

 

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Ok I'm back, and now I can use the forum since I formated my C drive a few days ago. It's been like 2 months, a little late I know, but I'm no computer wiz, so it took me a few weeks to get my shit together. Anyway, now that’s done and over with, I can more or less continue where I left off.

Of the few guild practices I've attended since I've become a member, attendance has been non-existent. Obviously this is nones fault, there is a certain thing called life that always seems to get in the way I’m sure there are a myriad of reasons why members don’t come to practice, some of which have already been stated in this thread. This can be anything from school exams, work-related, family/friends oriented, time differences, computer/internet speed problems, and anything else you can think of. These are all valid reasons to skip practice, but they have become too significant in the running of a active guild.

Therefore what can be done? Very little. No matter how many e-mails or private messages sent before a guild practice, the turnout will always be small. Persistence doesn’t help either, if anything, it will annoy more then anything else. If the guild continues the way it has since its inception, it will never reach the number of members to have an enjoyable multiplayer experience. A good game of Y.A.R.N. maybe, but a full out CTF or Team Deathmatch? No Way!

Does this mean the guild should be disband? No Way! After all, people joined the guild for a reason, and that reason is that they want to play with other people they know. I know I sure do. So rather then going on as we normally have, why don’t we provide a reason for members to take a more active part in the guild? How do we do this? Easy, all we have to do is rethink the way the guild deals with the problems that impede people from showing up at the practices.

To do this we need to find solutions to these problems. Since I’m the first to pose the issue, I guess I should be the first to give my opinion on the it.

Problem #1 – Timetables

We all don’t live in the US, so where 6pm might be a good time for most of us, it is still not for everyone. Playing at 12 O’clock at night, just doesn’t fit into everyone schedule as nicely as most people might think. The fact that the guild practice falls on a weekend can also be seen as a problem. Many people like to relax at home, go out to a party, take in a movie, or go to a concert. Whatever it might be, the weekends just don’t suit them.

Solution #1
1.) Make a form based on a) time Zone b) time and day guild practice should be on, and ask all the guild members to answer these two questions.Then change the guilds timetanle based on this information.
2.) Have guild practice for the two or three most common time zones, so on practice day, everyone has a chance to play with their friends. It might not be the huge guild match everyone wants, but its a start.


Problem #2 – Game Issues

Not all of us have the same games, or can download huge demos.

Solution #2
1.) Make a form based on a) what games and demos people have b) what they play most online, and from that group people together based on the games they have.This list should be used to pick the next games the guild plays.
2.) Instead of picking one game for the guild practices, pick four games, and have them all running concurrently.

Problem #3 – Participation

There seems to be a problem with communication in general. Guild members are not using the 3DAP forum or the guild website. This might be due to a lack of updates, but the same thing can be said about participation.

Solution #3
1.) A guild might not be the same thing as a clan, but a guild still has rules, and they must be followed and enforced.
2.) If guild practice took place every week, instead of every two weeks, communication and participation might be more consistent

If I think of anything else, I will post it.

 


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Good to see you back. I am glad to see that everything is working out ok for you now.

 

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Its good to be back:) I had to catch up on the stuff I missed, but now I'm pretty much up to date. I see u got SOF2. I'm going to have to get that sometime soon, even though I don't like the SP part of the game, the MP is quite good. Other than that I got GTA3, which I'm tring to finish, although most of the missions repeat themselves. I saw the footage of Doom3 from E3, man is it good. Now that is a game I'm going to make my Living Dead mod for, unless they make Quake 4 better, but thats being made by another company.

Anyway, happy to be back:)

 


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[3DAP] PECKERWOOD posted:

To do this we need to find solutions to these problems. Since I’m the first to pose the issue, I guess I should be the first to give my opinion on the it.
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Firstly, good to see you back. happy

Secondly, this issue is very old indeed. If you haven't read the rwst of this thread, I suggest that you do.

[3DAP] PECKERWOOD posted:

Problem #1 – Timetables

We all don’t live in the US, so where 6pm might be a good time for most of us, it is still not for everyone. Playing at 12 O’clock at night, just doesn’t fit into everyone schedule as nicely as most people might think. The fact that the guild practice falls on a weekend can also be seen as a problem. Many people like to relax at home, go out to a party, take in a movie, or go to a concert. Whatever it might be, the weekends just don’t suit them.

Solution #1
1.) Make a form based on a) time Zone b) time and day guild practice should be on, and ask all the guild members to answer these two questions. Then change the guilds timetanle based on this information.
2.) Have guild practice for the two or three most common time zones, so on practice day, everyone has a chance to play with their friends. It might not be the huge guild match everyone wants, but its a start.
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Trust me, that was thought about for a long time and, the compromise we reached was...
11pm GMT
6pm EST
3pm PST
9am (Sunday) Brisbane time.

Of course, if we were to ignore our Aussie members, this would make things a lot easier. It's not very nice, mind. happy

How's about a more euro-friendly...
8pm GMT
3pm EST
12pm PST

<quote by="[3DAP] PECKERWOOD">
Problem #2 – Game Issues

Not all of us have the same games, or can download huge demos.

Solution #2
1.) Make a form based on a) what games and demos people have b) what they play most online, and from that group people together based on the games they have.This list should be used to pick the next games the guild plays.
2.) Instead of picking one game for the guild practices, pick four games, and have them all running concurrently.



There is a huge problem here. I mean, we can all concentrate on one game like CS, or something, but then people who don't like CS won't be pleased... etc.

Suggestions?

<quote by="[3DAP] PECKERWOOD">
Problem #3 – Participation

There seems to be a problem with communication in general. Guild members are not using the 3DAP forum or the guild website. This might be due to a lack of updates, but the same thing can be said about participation.

Solution #3
1.) A guild might not be the same thing as a clan, but a guild still has rules, and they must be followed and enforced.
2.) If guild practice took place every week, instead of every two weeks, communication and participation might be more consistent



1. How?
2. Maybe, but I'm not in the greates of positions to do anything at the moment. Exam season.

Thoughts, people?

 

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I suggest a guild wide weekly email. Which I am going to write and send every thursday or friday night.

I'm going to write one right now as a matter of fact.

 

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Thats what I was thinking, If everyone had their own say, maybe we would see more people at practices. However, first they have to share their thoughts, being in a guild is really a team effort.

Oh, good luck on your exams, hope u do well:)

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Thats a good idea Duke:)

 


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First off i didn't get the email.

Secondly you have to understand some people are going to be so unavailable they won't be able to inform you.

 

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The website is updated roughly fortnightly.

But I need content!
Surely you don't expect me to provide it all myself?

I want some fucking input from »gasp« the entire guild.

Is that really too much to ask?
An article from each of you? Even a link?

A semi-regular article from one or two of you?

Something that would make us all *want* to read the site regularly, basically.

At present, I'm going to have trouble coming up with new stuff myself (huge piles of Real Life™ bullshit that I'm not going into), but I have been meaning to do something myself (aside from boring old site maintenance)

So if you've got an idea for a page on the site - be it a one off, an occasional piece or a regular item; <email to="[email protected]">e-mail</email> it to me.

If you aren't sure about whether it would be well received - bounce it around in this topic, see what people think.

(I'll even provide my anal retentive editing services free of charge for any articles submitted)

Oh and can I have some volunteers to write the next couple of news pages please - I really won't be able to do them.

Ta,

 

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I'll send u some links, I wouldn't know how to make the sites logo the size u want it, nor would it look good. However I do have links, and thats what I will send u. I can write the news stuff, I just don't know how to use HTML, so someone else is going to have to do that:(

 


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