Pigeon-holing yourself into one side is rather ridiculous. It's on a per issue basis whether you're conservative or liberal. Whether you're either doesn't mean a damn thing when it comes to politics as it's all just a power grab. It only determines which path(people you suck up/lie to get them to vote for you) you takes.

Fuck this. Fuck them. Fuck no. This is part of my problem with the religious. Most of the ones I know think that freedom of speech only applies to them. No. They also think that I have to respect their beliefs. Also no. I do not have to respect anything anyone thinks or says. I acknowledge our right to believe whatever nonsense you want but in no way am I obligated to respect it.

In Reply To #17

Yeah they seem to be fuzzy about the distinction between respecting a person's right to do something and respecting someone who does it.

I respect a man's right to stick a firecracker in his ass and light it, for instance.

In Reply To #18

Very true. You can drive a car with your feet, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

In Reply To #19

I think you mean "steer", as I do drive it with the pedals, which I use with my feet.

Eh, I'm a left-leaning independent.

Not a big fan of taxing the individual rich (corporations that use tricky loopholes I'm not a fan of, though), but I agree with almost all of the left's social rights views.

I love followin' politics, just not a fan of committing to either side for the most part.

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Either way, the use of hands is recommended.

The Rudd-Gillard infighting was great fun to watch though. Plus Gillard was born in Wales, which piqued my interest.

Apparently Im the only Rightie..

Yeah. For some reason I'm not rating his chances in the next election. Or of being in charge of his party in the next election. Or of his party getting many votes in the next election.

But he might end up top of the hit parade.



Yeah. Free speech does carry with it a responsibility to not be an enormous dick, and not to incite violence or hatred (or face the consequences of your actions) - but it still doesn't excuse people murdering completely different people ostensibly because of something some dickhead put in a rubbish film.

(quite cheerful news coming out of Libya at the moment, though - of the 'general public (and government) say "get the fuck out of our country, you extremist fuckbags" ' kind)

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I don't generally have a problem with religion (although I am an atheist); I do have a problem with extremists of all kinds. It's always the fringe nutbags who fuck things up for everyone (whether they're Christians, Muslims or whatever)

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That means we need you to take charge every few years or so, to get the economy back on track after we piss it all away on free cars for dogs, and government grants for disabled cats.

In Reply To #26

He's Canadian. His definition of Rightie is not the same as ours.

In Reply To #27

Is that like defining American politics using British political parties?

("The US has two main political parties - the Republicans, who are slightly more right-wing than the Conservative Party. And the Democrats, who are slightly more right-wing than the Conservative Party.")

The International Committee for Excessive Understatement called to say you win.

I'll have to jump in with the "I'm to hip to be identified as either left or right" crowd. Mostly it just seems daft to limit yourself to opinions which fit in the bit of the Venn Diagram you liked the colour of.

In Reply To #29

Every time there's a US election I find myself amazed at American politics. The Republicans in particular seem amazingly adept at picking candidates who wouldn't be allowed anywhere near a microphone here.

But then I suppose we have Boris Johnson.